Date: 05/09/2025
Mood: exhausted
Listening to: Colombian Necktie - Big Black
December 1997 with Radio Goethe in English
Source and translation notes
This interview is NOT August 1998. It clearly states it's a CA 1997 show and he speaks about things from this context accurately.
I cannot stress how English never seems to capture his tone or attitude properly. This man sounds excited and feeling good about his career point in December 1997. This interview is from the Palo Alto show on December 11th. He sounds like about halfway through this, he started rambling ideas lol.
This was taken in San Francisco approximately this same time as this interview. I believe the next day. This is him speaking; he looks like this.
Disclaimer: I translated this. I am an amateur goofball with a dictionary and basic grammar comprehension. Mistakes are mine. Do not use in any professional articles or publications, or for commercial reasons.
Interview: December 1997, Radio Goethe
Question: In Germany, you play in the biggest venues and stadiums. And here in small clubs. What's that like for you?
Paul: Everyone looks at it differently. Me personally, I don't care about the size of the clubs. Whether you play in a massive stadium or in a small club has nothing to do with how fun it is. Playing in front of a small audience can be shitty too. Also if people like the concert, that doesn't technically mean the band liked it too. It's rare both things align.
Question: What are your experiences on this American tour?
Paul: Unbelievable. We would have came here much sooner. It's so easy. People here yell at things that wouldn't even raise eyebrows back in Germany. Strange enough, Americans are more open, a bit more naive like big children. They don't take everything so seriously and are somehow not as stressful as Germans.
Question: What do you mean by this now?
Paul: Well, Germans are a bit lazy... tell me, are many Germans reading this now...? Whatever, I will gripe just a bit more. Americans are quick to inspire. Perhaps quicker to also forget. But it's much easier to play here for us than we thought.
Question: You contributed two tracks to the David Lynch film Lost Highway. Have you felt that this has helped you?
Paul: We're more known than we thought thanks to those two songs on the soundtrack. No we're not known, but we're better known. We thought nobody here knew us at all. However, a few people to know us through the Lost Highway soundtrack and we're also on Mortal Kombat 2He means not the game, but the sequel film from 1997. but we don't know much about it.
Question: So it doesn't matter that you sing in German?
Paul: I don't believe anyone has a problem with that at all. It's the same in Germany. Nobody understands an English band live either unless you know the lyrics. You pay attention to other things. It isn't always the case that you have to be singing in English to be successful in the US. There's more going on here than in Germany.
Question: But there's wordplay in your lyrics and surely that's being lost here?
Paul: Some things will be lost here, surely, but you don't only lose - you also win. The emphasis on lyrics in our songs, and we do have good lyrics, is some toned down for the music. Apparently it doesn't detract enough. We're also on a European tour [now]. In Barcelona, they were jumping to the ceiling even though they didn't understand a word. They always sing along du hast du hast mich. We do that always with English bands too. For a long time, I didn't know what Smoke On the Water by Deep Purple was about either. I thought it was about smoking.
Question: When I first heard you, I thought you were listening to a lot of Laibach and a lot of Die Krupps.
Paul: That's usually what people first say. Laibach vocals. Krupp's music. We had to accept that. We didn't invent this music, but we never copied anyone. We like both groups, but we also like more [than this]. I also listen to ABBA. We come across differently on a stage than Krupps, and not as theoretical as Laibach. We're more of a band than any art project. There are bands that are successful without [relying on] the music, like Marilyn Manson. A good song, the remainder is all right, but image is vital. Today, you have to be brazen.
Question: A clarification question: are you from Die Skeptikern or the Inchtabokatables?
Paul: It's confusing with us. We were kind of like SkeptikernThe actual band name referenced is Die Skeptiker. They were a very, as he said, important East punk band with more seriousness. They were loosely associated to stuff Paul did and the circles he ran in. He basically did not answer this question properly at all! lol. He is closer associated to Skeptiker than he is Inchties in terms of overlapped circles or audience or shows. His old 80s work often gets put on compilations with these bands. The only way I know to explain this to outsiders is, imagine the 90s grunge scene of bands and how they all came up in the same genre and prominence at the same time to be loosely associated acts without being actual friends or something. But generally associated in the same scene, genre, and overlapped audiences. That's sort of the idea here. Paul's work then fell under an associated cluster of other bands to Die Skeptiker. In my metaphor, it's like saying "Nirvana and other bands" and you can easily recall other bands you'd associate with such a statement like Alice in Chains or Soundgarden., we were called Feeling B. But we were a bit funnier than Skeptikern. They were a dead serious finger pointing punk band. Our bassist comes from the Inchties and there were a couple other bands in that circle. But none of us know them.
Question: You're always seen as a bit of an East-y band. Along the lines of the "East strikes back."
Paul: Good to hear, it's not so bad. If it's stuck to us I haven't noticed yet. But we don't have any problem being from the East. Rather, I'm truly proud then. We're not actually typical German, nor typical East. Even in the East itself, we were not typical Easterners.
Question: However, you stand out with your sound among East bands. Karat, City, Puhdys, and now Rammstein.
Paul: We are also a Western band on the contrary that were only formed three years after the East was invaded.Yes, he genuinely called reunification as "invasion/attack" (überfallen) lol. #hottake Rammstein is a kind of answer to the West. It wasn't a conscious thought process, but we didn't know how good we were when we started out either. We're now slowly realizing how many bad bands there are, even in the US. Here you simply play with a blank expression, we wriggle around on stage a bit, light something on fire, and everyone has a good time about it. As you can see now I'm rambling insanity.I have never had to translate or read Höhenflug in my life before and it was painful. The dictionary says his context is probably, "meist pej oder iron; die Wanderung von jemandes Gedanken in sehr unrealistische, fantastische Bereiche" Using self-deprecating irony in garbled ways I must find a way to match this tone and concept. It's pej/ironic. I considered "As you can see now I'm fucking around" lol. That is the vibe of the sentence though that he's being flippant and silly about oversimplifying. I have to show you our bus. It looks like a mobile brothel with lights around the seats, ceiling chandeliers, and such non-sense.
Question: Why do you think your mixture of heavy metal and industrial is successful?
Paul: It's definitely not the fault of the music because there are bands that do this better and aren't successful. I talk with fans often and always ask them, "how did you find out about us?" Out of 100, 99 reply that they heard our CD at a friend's home and liked it. It's the music after all, I'm realizing. People aren't disappointed at our concerts either. Even when we're playing at half-force, no one on the outside can tell. We never have poor concerts, and always invest in the show. Even when we had little money, we we still messed around with rockets on stage. We've always attached a great importance towards you not being disappointed at our concerts. We figured to ourselves, that there's enough poor bands, let us make one people would enjoy going to.
Question: But you also have this "bad boys image" you cultivated?
Paul: We did that by mistake because at the start, we never dreamed of someone finding that good. It's like when you're drunkenly sitting with your friends telling filthy jokesThe German for this is a term I never saw before now ever and it was like "pig" in the dictionary and I'm like ?? but then I looked it up in a slang sense. I wanted to use 'raunchy' at first once I knew the meaning was "obscene sexual content" contexts but then I went with filthy for the piggies 🐷, then you think about the night for starters. When you tell those same jokes on the radio a year later, it's all so different. We just wanted to make "trash" [written in English]. On top of it all, our women left us so at first it was like being reborn. We had the burdens off our shoulders. We met everyday for a year and had minced meat breakfast. It was a kind of birth.
Question: What's next for you?
Paul: We're just trying to continue performing our low-brow comedy.This word is impossible to explain omg. I had a whole article explain it to me in-depth because I was like "what is smearing comedy he's just making shit up now." The definition was: "theatrical behavior to attract attention in a mindless manner" and "comical play of low quality characterized with embarrassing tasteless jokes." In all honesty, I'm convinced Paul means the second definition because of the piggy filth joke mention. The same thing is happening to us in the US right now like what happened in Germany three years ago. I really don't know why, but it's like a lottery win. We don't have all the other stresses other bands have.